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Jul 3, 2025 | Todd & the Wizard of Ads Episode 12

Dear Reader,

Let’s Talk About Origins and Ice Cream,

A boy walks into a corner store with a dollar in his hand.

There’s a freezer next to the register—just a beat-up white box with a sticker on the front that says Lemon Ice. That’s it. No logo. No mascot. No brand.

The boy grabs one and takes it to the counter. The man behind him in line says,

“My mama used to make those. We’d squeeze lemons into test tubes and freeze them. Sold them one at a time on the streets of the Bronx.”

That dollar didn’t buy sugar.

It bought a story.

A mother’s work.

A boy’s memory.

The beginning of something that mattered.

That’s the power of an origin story.

Now think about Haagen-Dazs.

They have a story just like that—a widowed mother and her son in 1921, hustling popsicles to survive. But you’ve never heard it. They buried the truth beneath a fancy name and a brand that whispers “luxury” but never says “human.”

Ben and Jerry didn’t do that.

They gave their ice cream a face, a voice, and a reason to believe. Their names were the brand. Their beliefs were in every flavor. People didn’t just like the product. They loved the people behind it.

And that’s what makes a great origin story.

Not polish.

Not perfection.

But purpose. Personality. Truth.

In today’s episode, Roy and I unpack why the most unforgettable brands begin with a beginning. We’ll talk about hardship, honesty, the difference between vulnerability and oversharing—and how to craft the kind of founding story that gives your business a soul.

Because people don’t remember features.

They remember your stories.

-Todd Liles

In This Episode, You'll Learn:

  • Why Ben & Jerry’s brand won hearts while Haagen-Dazs didn’t—despite great product.
  • How vulnerability builds emotional trust and bonds your customers to your brand.
  • The power of archetypes and why origin stories resonate across every culture.
  • The real risk of oversharing—and how to avoid it while staying authentic.
  • Roy’s process for finding a brand’s signature story that sticks.

Episode Chapters & Summary

Ben & Jerry vs. Häagen-Dazs

“Häagen-Dazs was just a product, but Ben & Jerry's had a soul.”

Roy and Todd explore how Ben & Jerry's brand beat Haagen-Dazs by leading with personality and values. The magic wasn't just in the product—it was in the people behind it.

Key Takeaways:

  • Brand personality often outweighs product quality
  • Consumers connect with stories, not statistics
  • People buy from brands they recognize emotionally

The Law of Primacy and Recency

“Start strong and end strong—that's what people remember.”

Roy explains why the most memorable parts of any presentation are the beginning and the end—and how to use that to your advantage in marketing and leadership.

Key Takeaways:

  • First and last impressions shape memory
  • Strategic story structure builds stronger recall
  • Begin and end your message with clarity and intention

The Power of Vulnerability

“When you're willing to share your flaws, people trust you more.”

Roy and Todd break down how vulnerability done right builds trust and emotional resonance—without oversharing or sounding like a victim.

Key Takeaways:

  • Vulnerability builds emotional connection
  • Struggles, when shared authentically, foster trust
  • Too much detail can hurt credibility—balance is key

Hope Through Hardship

“Everybody wants the victory, but what they really remember is the struggle.”

The duo reflects on how hardship makes for powerful stories. People trust those who've overcome adversity, not those who have always had it easy.

Key Takeaways:

  • Adversity creates empathy and inspiration
  • Customers see themselves in stories of struggle
  • Overcoming hardship signals resilience and value

Archetypes and Storytelling Structure

“There's a pattern to powerful stories. And when you break it, you lose people.”

Roy reveals why timeless story structures work and how entrepreneurs can use them to anchor their message emotionally, not just logically.

Key Takeaways:

  • All powerful stories follow universal beats
  • The 'therefore' transition creates emotional payoff
  • Use familiar archetypes to craft sticky stories
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